Facebook Ads vs. Google AdWords: Which one should you be using? Part 1 #447

Ep. 44722 min2019-01-25

Both Facebook Ads and Google AdWords should be used together: Google harvests existing demand through paid search, while Facebook generates new demand by targeting users who have not yet searched for your product.

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Key takeaways
Facebook generates demand, Google harvests that demand.

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Facebook Ads vs. Google AdWords: Which one should you be using? Part 1 Do you want to run ads, but aren't sure what platform you should be using? Join Matt and Chris for another thrilling episode of the Best SEO Podcast, featuring "Facebook Ads vs. Google AdWords: Which should you be using?" by WordStream.

Questions this episode answers

Should I use Facebook Ads or Google AdWords for my business?

According to this episode, you should use both together. Google AdWords targets people already searching for what you offer, making it ideal for harvesting existing demand. Facebook Ads are better for introducing products to people who are not yet searching, effectively generating new demand.

What is remarketing and why does it matter for paid advertising?

Remarketing shows ads specifically to people who have already visited your website. The episode states it can increase conversion rates by 50% to 60% and engagement by over 400% across all industries, making it one of the highest-value tactics in a paid ads strategy.

Does a bigger budget always win in Google AdWords?

No. Google factors in ad relevancy, not just budget size. If an ad is irrelevant to a search query, Google may not show it at all, because serving irrelevant ads creates a poor user experience. Budget matters more in competitive industries, but relevancy is always a key factor.

How many website visitors do I need before remarketing makes sense?

The episode suggests a general rule of thumb of around 500 to 1,000 monthly visitors before remarketing really kicks in. However, the hosts note that product price and total visitor count both factor in, so the threshold is not strictly fixed.

In their words

94% of users will leave a website without doing anything and never come back.

Chris Burris

retargeting, remarketing will increase conversion rates by 50% to 60%, and increase engagement by over 400% across all industries.

Chris Burris
Terms defined in this episode
Paid Search
Advertising on search engines through keyword targeting and text-based ads, most commonly associated with Google AdWords, which is sometimes used as a synonym for the entire paid search category.
Paid Social
The practice of advertising on social networks such as Facebook, distinct from organic social posts, and requiring a paid budget to reach targeted audiences.
Remarketing
A form of display advertising that serves ads specifically to users who have previously visited your website, aimed at bringing them back and increasing conversions.
Display Network
A Google AdWords channel that places visual ads across websites beyond the search results page, used for brand awareness and remarketing campaigns.
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Hi, and welcome to the SEO Podcast, Unknown Secrets of Internet Marketing. My name is Chris Burris, owner of eWebResults. My name is Matt Bertram, your SEO therapist. You're the SEO therapist. Please come in, sit down on the couch, make yourself comfortable. We will reduce your stress on this podcast. Tell us all that ails you and your internet marketing endeavors. I like it. And we shall fix them. We shall make them better. I really like that. This is podcast number 447. As always, we have a tip from our previous podcast, and that tip is... Tip is start using videos for your marketing. At a minimum, make a video on the About Us page. Why should they do the About Us page? Well, it's their story. People want to do business with people they know, like, and trust. Yes, and it's the second most visited page on a typical website. First, the homepage. Second, the About Us. So do that story. Subscribe, follow. Boom! Why don't you put it on the homepage then? Put what on the homepage? Why don't you put the video on the homepage? Nobody said you can't put the video on the homepage. Don't attack me. It's just because I wrote the tip. All right, hey, I want to jump into this. Before I jump into this, remember, Matt and I, we are filming here live in Houston, Texas, and we are your Results Rebels. So you did that so you could just do it twice. Yeah, three times. Three times, yeah. Twice in the beginning, and then when you can't. And what he's referring to... Hook them horns! If you're not... Go Aggies! Go Aggies! But there's a difference, right? Like, and this is Houston and that's... I have no idea. If you're following on YouTube or Facebook Live, you can see we're making gestures with that. Manny's back! Manny, punch in the face to you. Happy New Year to you. Send me an email. Give me a call. I want to talk. All right, I want to talk to you about

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a sethorus? A sethorus? It's really... It's good... A dictionary? What would it be called? Library reading. There's really only one place to read that type of book. I want to know what that would be called. On an airplane, of course. A reference guide. It's a reference guide. I like it. So, hey, we're going to cover an article today. At least part of the article. This is Facebook Ads and Google AdWords. Which should you be using? An article we found. This is a big question I get a lot in the profit points. And there's one concrete answer. And so we'll get to that. Again, if you've tuned in the podcast, you know what we're about to skip. Each week we run a contest. If we get 10 shikos... They share a like or a foe. Yeah. If we get 10 shikos and we get a review. I just read the review, by the way. If you were... Boom. Shikow. That's right. When you do a shikos, the noise you hear in the back of your head is shikow. No. It's not boom. It's shikow. So the way the contest works, if we get those 10 shikos and we get the review, then we skip how we tell you how to leave a review. We're going to skip that. In fact, I don't even think we did it on the last podcast. If you are interested in some way cool, like way cool internet marketing t-shirts, PPC t-shirts, SEO t-shirts... I am. We created them because I couldn't find ones I was looking for out online. I wasn't really impressed. Yep. So we made some really cool shirts. Go to ewebresults.com slash swag. Go ahead and order those shirts for you. They're pretty awesome. May the rank be with you. I'm just going to throw that one out there. That one is popular. That is a very good one. I think that's it. Let's get into... Let's get into our article here. Facebook ads and Google AdWords. Which should you be using? We're going to talk about

Google or maybe talk a little bit about Facebook and then we're going to really dive in to the differences in the next podcast. Although the two platforms are often positioned as competitors, nothing could be further from the truth in practical sense. By the way, I think that statement's wrong. They are definitely competitors. But the way he's speaking about this is, should I use one or the other? It's like one, two, punch. That's not a real competition. Should I be using one or the other? They're definitely in competition for each other, with each other. So I think that's true. Many businesses are leveraging the strengths of advertising on Google and Facebook ads in concert to achieve maximum visibility, increase leads and sales, and find new customers. Adopting different strategies that align with the... I highlighted a lot. I didn't need to read all that. By the way, so they are in competition with each other. That's Facebook and Google, right? I think in the last podcast you even said they hate each other. They're mortal enemies, right? That's definitely true. And it's not one strategy or the other. It's probably both. Well, I'm sure they've recruited each other's people, so they probably don't hate each other as much, but it was just fair to speak. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about the differences. So Google AdWords, page search. Google AdWords is the largest and most popular PPC advertising platform. We could have a three-way fight and put Microsoft and LinkedIn in that. That would be true. Yes. Okay. Anyways, go on. Sorry. Sorry. We would not be fair to include the third and fourth place runners up into the first and second place. No, Microsoft bought LinkedIn, so they're in the fight. Oh, that's true. Yeah. That's true. All right. So Google AdWords is the largest and most popular PPC advertising platform on the planet, right? So PPC, pay-per-click. Boom. They actually say that AdWords is synonymous with the phrase paid search, right? And we do say that. Like, we'll say pay-per-click really does

apply to Facebook. Kleenex. Right? Kleenex. Tissue. That's it. AdWords, Google. Yeah. No, AdWords, paid search. Pay-per-click. Yeah. Pay-per-click. Yeah. Paid search focuses on the targeting of keywords and the use of text-based advertisements. Advertising using AdWords bids on keywords. Specific words and phrases included in search queries. So there's really kind of two pieces of the AdWords platform. I like to call the utilization of one, I think, is so unique and distinctive that you really need to add to this list of two, even though it's part of one. Right. So you're talking about display? In display? Yeah. Remarketing, right? Yeah. Remarketing is a piece of display, but I believe it deserves its own name. Right? And almost like, because you should like, the one thing you should be using, without a doubt, is remarketing. Well, so when we build campaigns, we'll do the AdWords. Yep. We'll do display, or we'll do remarketing next, typically. Then we'll add display. Yep. And then, you know, if you have any videos, you can do YouTube remarketing, or you can do, like, YouTube ads. Yep. And so those are really the broad buckets. Also, there's email. Yeah. So you can target in people's email boxes. Yep. You know, so AdWords is really versatile. It's a great resource. I believe it, if you're looking, well, we can, we'll go into it later, but it's a great choice. Yeah. And I think remarketing, just to be clear, is actually getting ads in very specific ads, if you so choose to work the platform that way, in front of people who have visited your website. Right? Yeah. And so there's nothing more valuable than the people who have visited your website. I got to tweak it. Right? There's nothing more valuable than those people to get ads in front of, again, they've already expressed an interest in you. Hopefully, they got there because they're the right target, and now you need to get them again. So I have some great statistics related to that. This is a little book of great statistics. Yeah. I'm

going to put it, like, statistics I use all the time, I want to put it on the book. So basically, 94% of users will leave a website without doing anything and never come back. Taking an action. And so retargeting, remarketing, people call it, like, different things, but I believe the data says that retargeting, remarketing will increase conversion rates by 50% to 60% and increase engagement by over 400% across all industries. Yeah. I mean, so super powerful when used correctly, remarketing, I believe you need to have, you know, 500, 1,000 users come into your website per month for it to really make sense. Really kick in, yeah. Unless you're selling, like, a huge piece of real estate, and you only need one person to buy it, and huge, so it's product price and number of visitors. So that's just kind of my rule of thumb. It's not, like, hard and fast, like, has to be that way, so. All right, let's talk about Facebook ads, right? Right, Facebook ads is a prime example of what is known as paid social. Yeah. I haven't really heard, I mean, I've heard that phrase, but, like, we don't use it regularly around here. Yeah. Or the practice of advertising on social networks. With the highest number of monthly active users of any social network in the world, Facebook has become a highly competitive and potentially lucrative element of internet marketing. So I like this article so far, but, again, there's really strong statistics on how many people spend on Google. Yeah, how much time they spend. Well, not just time, but money. Yeah. The biggest buckets are Facebook and AdWords. Those are the two biggest buckets of online spending, and those statistics are pretty powerful, and I would just say those would make it pop. Yeah, if you're going to compare. I like statistics. So here's one of the ways that they break it down, and I know that you're going to have a different opinion from this. This is AdWords helps you find new customers, while Facebook helps

new customers find you. I'm not sure. I don't. No, I read that, and that was kind of a different way to say it, and I kind of liked it. Usually how I say it is Facebook generates demand. Google harvests that demand. Harvests that demand. And so if there's already people searching for you online and there's data to support, you really want to be in the top couple positions in Google. If you're not there yet, right, and people are already searching for you, why not spend the time, energy, money, whatever, to get those people that are already seeking out the services you have now? If you're offering something new or you want to let people know about something, Facebook's a great way to go get up in their face and let them know about your product and introduce them to it. So this says it in a very different way. I haven't heard it because AdWords is looking for new customers. And then, you know, Facebook puts it in front of you because so it answers it quite a bit. And the reality is certainly from this perspective is that we're looking for new customers, either on the AdWords platform or the Facebook platform. What I would say is that AdWords helps potential customers who are looking for what you do find you. Oh, yeah. Right? And then Facebook helps for potential customers. Well, potential customers who probably aren't looking for what you do yet find you. That's true. And that's the planting the seeds versus the harvesting, right? Planting the field. It's like, hey, they're on Facebook. We have their demographics. We know what they like. And we know that they probably like what we do. Although, if they liked what we do, they were probably already on AdWords searching for it and we got an ad in front of them. Unless it's a new product or there's, you know, new demand for something or if you're offering some kind of sale and you want to let people know about it. I mean, there's ways

to use both of these tools. And you do use them together. But, you know, a lot of people will be like, oh, we need to be doing Facebook. And a lot of times when people say they need to be doing Facebook advertising, they think about it as like Facebook organic. Right. Okay? Just the post. They don't really actually think of it as paid social. So, you know, Facebook could do a little bit better job paying, And demarking that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, one thing we know that if you're a business and you're doing posts, you almost never get seen. Now, since March of last year. Absolutely. And the data is pretty conclusive that if you're going to put paid budget behind it, you shouldn't just boost posts. You should actually do, Target it. Get in there and do advertising and target and all that. I mean, you can target the post. Well, they let you do it now. I mean, they're getting better. That platform for a while was really difficult. And you had like, you had three different layers. Okay? And it was really complicated. They are making it a lot easier. They're working on usability. So, I think it's great. Yeah. Excellent. All right. So, let's talk about the strengths and the advantages of Google AdWords. Oh, there it is. And then we'll come back to, Not the money, but the search queries. So, Google is considered the de facto leader in online advertising, fielding more than 3.5 billion search queries every single day. 3.5 billion. That's awesome. Google Advertising, they offer, again, search network and display, right? So, search is really on the SERP, search engine results page, where you're doing paid ads right there at the top. Usually, you see them. They're top three or four. The configuration has changed. That's the paid ads. So, here's kind of an interesting little bit debate. And I've been talking with a lot of prospective clients as they're kind of moving through our process. But, you know, I ask a lot

of people, hey, do you click on ads? Everyone says no, right? Like, everyone says no. The majority of people click no. But there's so much money being generated with it. I believe people click on ads because, one, they want a deal. Right. Or they have some kind of urgency. And I think there's a third because I can be honest. We've had people in our conference room and we've had ads up and like, oh, I didn't realize those were ads. You mean the little thing that says ad next to it? Well, there's definitely that as well. And they try to do a job of demarketing it but also kind of hiding it a little bit. And a lot of people don't know that. There is kind of a Venn diagram, too, of people that click on ads and search for organic. But a lot of times, AdWords used to be a very big silver bullet. But now, you know, like, SEO, in my opinion, is a better qualified lead because they've done the research. They also feel like you've earned the position that you're in. There's a little more credibility. Yeah, credibility. And so, you know, you really want to break down how you want to use AdWords versus SEO. And there's good reasons to use both. But you've just got to understand what your strategy is. And one of the things that you said the other day that I think is really powerful in comparing SEO to PPZ, and then we'll get back to PPZ, is that SEO, right, once you get good placement, that's an asset. That's an asset that you take into the next month and the next month and the next month. Whereas PPC, if you're not funding that asset, it's no longer. I mean, you've got that thing sitting there, but you've got to fund it. Yeah. So Search Engine and Display Network talks about the immense audience. Google handles more than 40,000 search queries every second, more than 1.2 trillion web searches every single year. Simply put, no other search

engine can offer the potential audience as Google. Yeah. A lot of people believe that when you get on Google AdWords, you're on the search network, even Display, that the budget is the only thing that matters. And it's actually not true. Because Google got really smart. And there's a book I read, I think it's the fifth employee, employee number five or something, a Facebook. Really good book. I haven't read that. And it talks about the other search engines that, it may have been like Lycos at the time, where the paid, you just paid as much, if you paid enough, you got on any search result. And it wasn't relevant to their search. So Google is actually the first company to make smart decisions about showing paid ads. And relevancy is very important to Google. I mean, there's lots of people, there's searches. Page rank. Do you know, do you know why, do you, so I watched a documentary on Netflix. Yeah. It's called The Creepy Line. Okay. Okay. So do you know, like page rank, I thought it was because it was. Page one. Because it was the page. It was Larry Page. It was Larry Page. That's how they named it. Yeah. Yeah. It was because of Larry Page. So that was the page rank. So Google does a good job of showing you relevant ads. In fact, we've all done a search where there's no paid ads. Yeah. Right. We know there are companies out there who would like that real estate. Sure. Google's not even giving them that real estate because it's an irrelevant, bad experience for the Google user. It's one of the things we say in this podcast all the time. When you're providing a good experience to the Google user, Google will look favorably upon you. I like it. So it's not just the size of the budget, right? Budget does matter. And especially the more competitive the industry, the more mature the industry, the more you've got to be a better business to be competitive in the PPC landscape.

But it's not the end all be all. It's not just about having the biggest budget. Okay. Yeah. All right. So this is, do you want to stop or do you want to keep going? What time is it? It is. Yeah, I probably need to go. Okay. So we're going to jump into the next piece. That's going to be the strengths and advantages of Facebook. We're actually going to talk about AdWords and how we use AdWords and Facebook. We're going to talk a little bit more about remarketing because, again, anybody who's visited your website, who you've, you know, through your targeted efforts, content efforts, or paid efforts, get to your website. How important it is to bring them back. We're going to talk about that in the next podcast. So we're going to wrap this up. We're going to ask you to do one thing. One thing. Just one thing. One and one thing only. Share this podcast with one person. Yeah. And let them know about it and tell them. If you got value out of this podcast. Yeah. Please do that. If you're looking to grow your business with the largest, simplest marketing tool on the planet. The internet. Call eWebResults for increased revenue in your business. 713-592-6724. If you have a referral, right? So that's somebody you know who's interested in internet marketing. That's web design, landing pages, funnels, email marketing, PPC. Or if you're a marketer out there and you want to bring in a second opinion or, you know, if you want to look at things, we've been doing a lot of that lately. Yeah. And so for all you marketers out there, if you're having problems and you want a second set of eyes to look at it, feel free to reach out to us too. Yeah. And you can fill out that form. Actually, go to eWebResults.com. There's a referral button. Fill that out. And you are good to go. Hey, why don't you leave us a review? Leave us a review at eWebResults.com slash Yelp. That'll take us

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