10 Content Marketing Skills You Need to Master by Julia McCoy PART 1 #474

Ep. 47438 min2020-02-241,226 plays

Mastering content marketing requires audience research, expert interviewing, goal-driven writing, competitive differentiation, and long-tail keyword strategy, all of which align closely with core SEO practices.

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Key takeaways
no matter how compelling your content is, you won't convert anyone if you don't know, and this is an italics, exactly who you're speaking to.

About this episode

10 Content Marketing Skills You Need to MasterIf you want to achieve positive results and ROI, you have to master the right content marketing skills. we feature 10 essential content marketing skills. The good news is you don’t need a special degree or inborn talent to master these skills. All you need is to know what these skills are and to practice until you’ve mastered them.

Questions this episode answers

What are the top content marketing skills to master for SEO success?

The episode covers five of ten skills from a Search Engine Journal article: audience detective work using tools like Google Analytics, Quora, and Reddit; subject matter expert interviewing; writing every piece with a clear goal; knowing how to stand out from competitors; and keyword research savviness with a focus on long-tail phrases.

Why should marketers target long-tail keywords instead of high-competition terms?

Long-tail and low-competition keywords are easier to rank for and still drive targeted visitors. Building authority on these phrases first creates a foundation to eventually compete for bigger terms. Even low search volume keywords can justify a full year of SEO spend if one conversion is a high-ticket deal.

How can you write authority content without being a credentialed expert?

The episode says you do not need a degree in a niche to produce authority content. Reading extensively in a specific niche builds enough expertise, and teaching the material, whether through writing, training, or podcasting, is when knowledge becomes truly concrete and articulate.

How does paid advertising compare to SEO according to the episode?

The episode cites a statistic that there is a 26% chance a target audience will not see paid ads due to ad blockers, meaning only about 75% of people see paid ads while organic content reaches the full audience. The hosts argue that a core marketing budget should go toward SEO for long-term value.

In their words

In the future, the only content people will read is authority content written by experts, right? That's interesting. You need to be mindful of that. If you're just kind of producing mediocre articles, that's just not going to cut it as you get further down the road of this content marketing.

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Terms defined in this episode
Long-tail keywords
Longer, more specific keyword phrases with lower search volume and less competition that help build site authority before targeting high-competition head terms.
Subject matter expert (SME) interviewing
The practice of interviewing a recognized expert to fill content knowledge gaps and lend credibility to an article, using open-ended questions and a prepared content outline.
Savoir faire (savviness) in keyword research
The episode uses this phrase to mean not just the mechanical ability to find keywords, but the strategic skill to choose the right ones, particularly long-tail and low-competition phrases.
SpyFu
A PPC and SEO competitive research tool mentioned in the episode as a way to spy on competitor keyword strategies and find content gaps.
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Hi, and welcome to the SEO podcast, Unknown Secrets of Internet Marketing. My name is Chris Burrs, one of the owners here at eWebResults. My name is Matt Bertram, your SEO Jedi. Jedi of EWR Media? Yeah, EWR Media and EWR Digital. And Digital Media, whatever it takes. Whatever it takes. May or may not have done an interview as one or the other. Welcome back to another fun-filled edition of our podcast. This is podcast number 472, I think. I feel like it's higher. It could be higher. Remember, we are broadcasting live from Houston, Texas. And Matt and I, we are your Results Rebels. Cowabunga. Hey, I wanted to get this review in. And actually, I probably read this review. I just thought it was worth bringing back. So, I could, you know, poke some ribs here. It says, hello, I hope Mike and, excuse me, Chris and Mike see this review. Oh, yeah, you did read this one. Podcast is by far the best podcast on earth. Whoever the hosts may be. That was Intricate Digital Media. Patif, to you, Intricate Digital Media. His name is Matt. It's not Mike. Well, I think that maybe I don't articulate my words as well as you. Okay. So, they're like, what is your name? And it's like Matt, Mike. Matt, Mike. Mac, Mark, Mickey. I don't know. Mr. M. Mr. M. Mr. M. Well, punch in the face to you. By the way, we really do need more reviews. So, if you could, go ahead and review us. We only have 118 right now on our GNB. Yeah. And really, we're trying to get to 173. Yeah. Because there's one agency out there we're trying to beat. So, you could help us with that. Yeah. We just need 50 more. Okay. But it is actually still really easy to get there. Go to, and I just did it, ewebresults.com slash G+. G+. I know. It's G+. But if you just search for ewebresults, you'll find it too. You'll also find it too. The nice thing about using the G+,

is it actually like pops up the search result and then the place where you can leave the review. It could not be easier. Yeah. I do like that, going in there and getting that exact link and then the short link and then sending it to people. I do like that. It makes it super easy. So, a little teaser. We're going to be talking about the 10 must-have content marketing skills. Yes. And it's basically SEO. I started reading this and I was like, this is SEO. This is like check one for SEO. Check two for SEO. Well, I like some of the statistics. Oh, yeah. I like the stats. Anytime there, we're so data-driven here. Like, anytime there's data, we start geeking out on it. Do we have t-shirts? They can get t-shirts? Oh, so Javi is making podcast-specific t-shirts. Oh, okay. So, the designs are in, I think. So, we pulled down from Best SEO Podcast, the swag for the company. Right. Right. And we got a lot of people wearing the company shirts. Yep. I'm wearing one right now. But we're making them specifically for the podcast. Right. So, we had them for the company. We're going to make it for the podcast. So, we get it. So, maybe you own a digital marketing agency and you don't necessarily want to wear the shirt of another digital marketing agency around. We're going to franchise, though. So, you can buy into the franchise. There you go. So, I got a guy out in Australia that runs an agency. Yeah. And he was like, can you franchise for Australia? Like, I'm interested. And I was just like, haven't thought about it. Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, the model we're building here on how we're scaling is scalable. And we are going to be opening up new areas and new opportunities. So, who knows? I mean, that's not like on the agenda for 2020. It's like on the agenda after the agenda after the agenda. That needs to be done before the first year. Yeah. Well, you're

saying we're going to buy businesses. And like, you know, I'm like, Chris. You're like, let's go to lunch. So, I want you to buy this. We're going to buy this business. And I'm like, I don't know if I have time to buy that business right now. Yeah, I was like, let's do this and this and this. And then let's talk about it. Oh, I see. You want to do it in an organized fashion. So, we'll have swag for you soon. If you could, tweet now. What we'd really like you to do is shiko or shikau. Yeah, share, like, follow. Boom. Shikau us so that you can connect with us. We don't currently get paid. We're going to open a Patreon account here pretty soon. Yeah, yeah. We don't get paid. So, we get paid in reviews. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yes, yes, yes. For now. Yes and no. So, they built the site, like Best SEO Podcasts, but I really didn't have any input in what was built. So, we're reorganizing what the business case is and what the goals are. So, you know, when you go to bestseopodcast.com up in the corner, you're going to be able to buy paid consulting. You're going to be able to buy the profit plans that we're offering at the agency. Yeah. But we're no longer offering them at the agency. I know it's confusing. Right. We're only offering workshops. Okay? At the agency. At the agency. So, the profit plans, the mini consulting packages are going to be offered on our website. And so, that's just a value add for our podcast listeners. That's just for our podcast listeners because the clients that we're bringing in for the agency need way more than that. A lot more time. Right? So, it's significant. And it may be the case that you call in, get one of those profit plans, and then get kind of shifted over into, hey, we really need to dig a lot deeper and get into the workshop. So, really, the consulting

is going to be talking to Chris or myself. More probably myself. I don't know because you're not here very often anymore. Everyone, man. Yeah. But so, if you want to talk to me, you'll be able to buy that. And then we do have a Patreon account, so we just need to upload it. So, basically, like 5, 10, whatever. If you want to buy us a cup of coffee or a meal or something like that. Or a Tesla. Or a Tesla. You could do that. Yeah. Whatever. It's a wide range. Yeah. And then there was one more. Oh, we're going to be offering sponsorships. So, SEM Rush had called us in the past to do sponsorships. I was on a guest podcast on another site. We were kind of talking through it. He said, we really need to be offering sponsorships. So, if it's non-competitive or it's supplemental, I know there's a lot of people out there we have relationships with. We haven't reached out to you and said, hey, are you interested? But if you're watching this and you are, please contact us. So, we are going to be building a full podcast division. And so, these sponsorships will help support full-time people for that. Because, really, the podcast and the agency are kind of separate entities. Yeah, they're separate entities and the agency is growing at kind of an exponential rate. So, we've got to put a separate piece in place to make sure that the podcast. Yeah, we've got to make sure. We've been falling off a little bit. We've been falling off on the podcast. So, we apologize. Yeah. Yeah. And we need that separate piece to make sure that we're able to continue to deliver value. Well, yeah. We got to transcribe. We fell back on transcription. Oh, really? So, some people, because we're just babbling back and forth, they don't want to listen to us. And so, they just want to read it and they want to skip to the good part. Oh, yeah. So, I actually have a few

people that have asked for that. Okay. Yeah. Well, we're still working with the person transcribing. Yeah. So, not everybody likes to hear you and I banter. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I don't understand. I don't understand. We enjoy it. I mean, we're all about business here. We are all about business. All right. So, this is Top 10 Must-Have Content Marketing Skills, right? And do we have an author on here? Is it the author somewhere? Did we get that? I know that it was published February 17th. Yes. And it was on Search Engine Journal. All screenshots taken by author February 2020, but no name. No name. Wow. Okay. Well, Patif to the unnamed author of Top 10 Must-Have Content Marketing Skills. It was on Search Engine Journal. Marketing Skills. Yeah. So, I like how this started off because I love the data, right? For example, a number of people using ad blockers has risen by 10% in six years. First off, how they figure that out, that's a lot of fun. I like that kind of data. Next, no matter how much you spend on paid advertising, there is a 26% chance your target audience won't even see them. So, that is another reason you should do SEO. Yeah. Just saying, like, I mean, really, like when you're looking at paid ads versus SEO, and a lot of people have asked us about, you know, what we should do and this and that. What's the right ratio? I've created a couple different scenarios of, like, when you should use paid ads, because you should. Yeah. But your core marketing budget really should be on SEO. Because there's more value there. There's more value there over the long term. But this was an interesting dynamic of a statistic that came in and said, well, not only is SEO better in the long term, people are not necessarily going to see your ads. There's 25% extra people. Only 75% of the people are going to see your paid ads. The full 100% are going to see your organic efforts. And

then there's trust issues. There's other things. But Google is a huge company based on just ads. So, if they do work to an extent, I think you just got to spend a certain amount. So, people that were spending $500,000, you know. Really just kind of testing the waters. Well, it was when, like, nobody was using it and you were getting, like, you know, three cents a click. Yeah. Now you're like, yeah. Now you're like, $40 a click, $126 a click. I mean, how many clicks, you know, to get to a lead, to get to a conversion. Yeah. You got a really efficient conversion and sales process in order to make sure that you're getting your value. Search, it mentions voice search is growing. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. For 4.08 million voice assistants in use worldwide. I feel like that's low. Look, anybody asking who, what, when, where, why. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On their device. Any device. I don't know that that probably doesn't include just cell phones, right? Like 4.08 million. There could be tablets. That's probably just Alexas in people's houses. Yeah. Well, I think that that might be that statistics from one thing. Right. Like Alexa or Siri or something. I don't know if it's all of them. Yeah. Because I would call your cell phone a voice assistant now, right? Yeah. So it's a map and a phone and a text device or whatever, but it's also, so I'm assuming it's not going to be. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's, yeah. How did we live without them? In the future, the only content people will read is authority content written by experts, right? That's interesting. And you need to be mindful of that. If you're just kind of producing mediocre articles, that's just not going to cut it as you get further down the road of this content marketing. Well, yeah. I mean, how, how Google's looking at it is they're looking for unique, helpful content. And there's a lot of topics out there that have been done, written about thousands

of times. Like, are you adding really any value to what's going on of what Google's trying to do in that landscape? Yeah. So, so you got to be mindful of that for sure. There's content marketing that works. There's content marketing that doesn't work. First, you need to master the right content marketing skills for success. Interestingly, we're going to cover those, the 10 of them in this. Now I thought this, the very next line is the top 10 content marketing skills to learn for greater brand success. It's actually a good SEO strategy there, right? Because it's not the title of the article. It's probably the H2 of the article. And so I, you know, using smart SEO in this article about content. Well, I would say if you're trying to rank for brand success, it needs to be in the first five years. Yeah, no, I would, I probably would have, yeah. I mean, better, but not best. It's good that they did an H2 and extended the breadth of the content. Well, you know, what I'm starting to see happen in articles, just a quick tip for everyone out there is Google likes to see a summary at the top. So it's like 10, 10 tips. Here's the 10 tips and kind of structured data as like, and then break it down. So, yeah. Cause I was, I was just on a phone call and one of the things they said is like people absorb information and the gaps between their lives. Right. Like, so, so like you're in, you're right. Like you're in the waiting room, the doctor's waiting room and you're absorbing, right. Micro moments where you're collecting little bits of information. And so you've got like, if, if you see a big block of texts, like that's just not going to work unless you're in, you know, I think that that's again, why podcasts are so effective because you can turn it, it's on demand and it's in the car, it's in the car. Or it's, it's, it's on your phone. You

can take it anywhere. If you're driving, drive safely now. Also, you mentioned if people are watching us, uh, make sure you subscribe and follow because that's really important. Yeah. We got to, we're, we're, we're working on the, the whole expanding the podcast on different platforms. We got it all over the place now. All right. They're, they're dying for skill. Yeah. I'm sorry. All right. Skill number one. Sorry to cut you off. Detective work, digging up facts about your audience, no matter in, and actually in some cases I just said, we need to read this article because it's very well written, no matter how compelling your content is, you won't convert anyone. If you don't know, and this is in italics, exactly who you're speaking to. Uh, and then he gives a, for instance, I thought it was pretty interesting. Hey, today I would like to reveal exactly how to get, uh, to let go of someone you love. So you know how to move on from a relationship and move forward with your life. Watch this brand new video right away. And the point he makes is it's, it's not fancy, fluffy words. It's not like super, um, like, Oh, the content writer of the ages came in and created this line. It's just, they know exactly what their audience is interested in. And they said, Hey, we've got it. You watch the video. Yeah. It's just really personalized. I think that that's really the, the, the term everyone's looking for is like, Hey, you're trying to get over someone in your relationship. Here's what you need to do. Yep. Right. And then he breaks down like more details. He goes, here are five powerful ways to put your detective's cap on and dig up clues about your audience. Number one, use Google analytics. This is where you're like, you started thinking, well, okay, that's SEO. All right. Um, to find out who's visiting your website, you can get information from analytics. And he says like names, ages, and genders of your site visitors. Not

names. You can't get names. You can get, you can get gender, you can get age, you can get paid, uh, with salary demographics, which is a little sketchy, but, um, and that's only on a limited number of the visitors. Like it's not a hundred percent. They don't have that information. Yeah. They have a lot of undefined. Yeah. Right. You know, so, uh, but definitely not names. I'm surprised that they, you can get included that. Uh, like, like interest. Yeah. You can get interest and stuff. Yeah. Number two, go on Quora or Reddit and research topics around your niche. Here's where you can find their fears, their desires, their dreams. Remember there's two things that kind of drive people. It's, it's things that they want and things that they want to avoid. Right. And so when you're getting their fears and desires and dreams, you're kind of covering both of those. Well, two interesting facts. 95% of all decisions are emotional. Yes. Okay. Yes. I just made an emotional decision degree with you. And then, uh, you know, the, the, the desire for fear or, or fear as a motivator over reward is like three times greater or something like that. Like, so people don't want to lose something. People don't want to avoid something. They're more risk averse. Yeah. Exactly. So they'd rather, they're, they're, they're more comfortable taking risk to save the $5 that they have than they are to take risk to get $5 they don't yet have. Yep. Yep. Um, take note of how your users respond to your content. You can use a tool like Buzz, Sumo, uh, Sumo and, and actually understand, Hey, how are they engaging with your post? What are, what are the processes? I can tell you, I'm, I'm doing that now. And I'll talk about that here in a little bit. There's a, something that's a little parallel coming up soon. Offer surveys, right? That's a great way to learn about your customers. Uh, I've heard lots of monkey or something like that. Use survey monkey,

but I've heard lots of, uh, um, kind of business cases where they just did a survey of their audience and like, they realized that this one clothing shop that 80% of the women who shopped there actually, uh, got their hair done just down the street. So they formed a partnership with them because then anybody else who gets their hair done, they could have a free promotion. And then there, there, there's so much in data. Yeah. Right. I mean, I think that, you know, understanding what's going on and, and that's why I think digital marketing is, is so much more powerful than traditional marketing is you can see what's happening and make adjustments. Yeah. Really quickly. Really quickly. In the moment. Yeah. And, um, you, you can't do that with traditional marketing. You don't really know what's going on. And you can't, you can't just take down that big billboard and then replace it with a, yeah, like, like, like you should have, I, I haven't seen this in a while, but I think at one point I saw a billboard and there was like a misspell. Oh yeah. That's, that's going to be there for a month. Like, I mean, you, you could have that in a blog post and you can go make a change or on a website. It's like a quick change, but you know, on a billboard. Engage with people in your comment section of your blog. And I can, I can talk about, um, uh, my other business, my vital C where deciding to put our product in glass bottles was just listening to people in YouTube, listening to people on the phone, obviously, uh, and comments on Facebook. Because like, I thought it should have been a glass. It should have been a glass. A lot of plastic. Yeah. So I'll, really all I did was listen to Matt. So really this should just say, listen to Matt. I'm just most people. I fall in the category of the bell curve of most people. What, the way I think

is about how most people think. Not always true, but, but I'll go with it. Speaking to your audience should be like having a conversation with your friend. The better you know your friend, the better the conversation is going to be, right? Otherwise you have that awkward conversation with somebody that you don't get along with. Uh, skill number two, the art of subject matter expert interviewing to write amazing content. You need to be an expert on your topic. I always like this question. How hard do you think it is to be an expert on a topic? I mean, we know the topic, like what the topic is depends, right? Yeah. But, but like, would you say like it's in the realm of, I feel like some people. I think everybody's an expert at something. I think that's true. But what, if someone has a passion, like they're going to know more about birdwatching or something, you know what I mean? Like, like anybody that knows anything about birdwatching knows more than I do. More than me. Yeah. Both of us. Combined. Combined. Yeah. So they're an expert. Probably Yvonne as well. Yeah. I mean, I think it comes down to like, why are you interviewing the subject matter expert? What content are you trying to capture? I think there are people who believe that becoming a subject matter expert is a really challenging thing and it's something that they couldn't do. And, and I don't, I've just never had that opinion. I feel like you got to read a lot, right? You got to read a lot. And, and you can read very niche stuff. One of the points he makes is like, you don't need to become a medical doctor in order to write intelligent medical articles. You just need to become an expert in that little niche. Does it help if you have the broad base? Of course it does. But you just become an expert in that niche. And that's really. I mean, I can diagnose myself. Yeah. Just go to WebMD. WebMD

and just type in or whatever. It's either a slight abrasion or you're going to die. Yeah. Right. Like it's either. Well, all these, well, like all the different, like, oh, that auto moon. I got that. You know, like people like self-diagnose. You're like. Yeah. That's probably dangerous. It's very dangerous. And then people are like self-medicating, you know, they go to a doctor. Cause I used to be a pharma rep. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So they would go and like, I need this. And that's what the pharmaceutical companies with advertising is driving you to do. What they're trying to do is they're like, go to the doctor and demand this. Demand what you need. Yeah. Because clearly you have restless leg syndrome. Yeah, exactly. Like that wasn't even a thing. I sold that. You can produce authority content even if you don't have a degree in that niche. I always just believe you got to read a lot of it, a lot, right? Process a lot of information. And then it's ultimately, and I know you'll agree with this. It's ultimately when you start teaching it. Yes. That you become an expert. I would say you don't really know it actually until you teach it. Because. It's like when you wrote this book, right? Like all of this information was in your head, but it's so much more concrete since you've put it in paper, right? Since you. Yeah, I had to really work through it, but you see that when we're doing trainings here in the office. Yeah. You know, when we're doing some coaching, I'm like, explain it back to me. Yeah. And you can see that there's some stuttering and there's this and that. And then the synapses get formed and then like when they repeat it. It gets better. It gets better. It gets a lot better. It gets more articulate. And really like when you're talking to clients where we're training the account managers to talk to clients, they're learning, right? And I think it's through the teaching is how you learn.

Yeah. So that's I think what you need. Here are five tips to make your interviews seamless and value rich. Be prepared. Before you call your SME, subject matter expert, do as much research as you can. And I can give a great example. I was just recently the Dr. Gundry podcast. I recorded a podcast with Dr. Gundry. If you don't know who he is, he's written a couple of books, Plant Paradox, Longevity Paradox. I actually read. It's funny. You know, you watch the late night show and like, have you read my book? And you know that the host hasn't read, you know, three books from the night before. I read his second book, his most recent book twice. And then the book before that once before I went to the interview because I wanted to be able to connect with him on his subject matter. And it actually did work out really well. There were a couple of points in that podcast where I was actually able to bring in information about which he speaks, about which he's passionate into the interview. So I'll throw in a quick story and I'll try to be quiet because I know we're trying to get through this and people don't want to hear me ramble. But when I was moving from PPC, because a lot of people don't know this, but I started as a PPC expert and then moved into SEO, right? And it really gave me the foundation of SEO because it's the same algorithm to a degree and you can see more data and blah, blah, blah. The concepts are certainly mappable. So when I'm teaching people PPC that understand SEO, it's pretty easy, right? But bottom line is, so I'm meeting with one of the top experts for SEO here in Houston. And, you know, like I only knew PPC, so I read a bunch of books to prepare for that conversation. And, like, I went into the conversation and I, like, I was like, oh, like... We're kind of the same level. Well, like,

there's different things. I didn't know some experiential knowledge, right? But as far as concepts, strategies, all these sort of things, I had quite a bit of knowledge. And that was, I mean, that was like five books. So I read like five books. One was the art of SEO. Actually, no, I read that. Well, I read part of it, not really. Like, it was so big. But then I went back. And then I went back and re-read it. It was like 900 pages. Yeah, that's... So I went, I didn't really read it the first time. Right. But then I went back and, like, actually read it and highlighted everything up. And, like, I've read that cover to cover now. Yep. And it's now a reference book for me, you know. But anyway... And that's some of the, you know, split off some of the information where relevant into this. I mean, I, this is literally like 400 books. Yeah. Maybe 300. I don't know. But I read a ton of books. And label. I remember being on a plane with you, like, highlighting. I would highlight them. I would label them. And then I was like, all this information is really important. By the way, we're holding up the book. If you're just on the podcast listening, it's Build Your Brand Mania. It's an Amazon bestseller that Matt, that Matt wrote, wrote, published, edited. But the brilliant part is that I wrote the foreword for it. It's really quite a good foreword. The best part of the book, I think. I don't know. It tees it up. All right. Number two, skip the dead air with open-ended questions. So you don't want to ask, like, do you really enjoy what you're doing? Yes, I do. You want to, like, what is it about what you do that you love so much? So ask open-ended questions, not yes or no questions, if you're going to be interviewing a subject matter expert. So a tip for interviewing, so this is a little side note, is if you're interviewing

somebody, because I've been on a bunch of UF2, like guest podcasts, blah, blah, blah, is do a pre-interview. Yeah. Let them answer all these questions, get out, like, what they're going to say, them kind of talking about their business or whatever. Yep. And now they don't want to repeat themselves when they're talking to you again on camera, so then you can really get into the meat. Yeah, yeah. And so that was kind of a suggestion tip that another podcaster, fellow podcaster, gave you. Yeah, like, go through it. Number three, so this is five tips to make your interviews seamless and value-rich. Bring your content outline, right? So you're going to have a content outline before you even get there. So you've got to have done a lot of homework and know where you want to go. So your interview with a subject matter expert is two pieces. One, to fill any gaps that you have. Yeah. And two, really, to lend the credibility of that subject matter expert to the article that you're writing. Like, I interviewed whatever, Dr. Gundry. So you're trying to get quotes. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a lot of value in that. Next, record your conversation. I almost feel like that goes without saying. How many people record a conversation and don't listen to it? Yeah. No. I mean, that's why you want to transcribe it. Yeah. Like, and Google will help you do it. So it's pretty easy. Pretty easy. Don't be afraid. And then finally, don't be afraid to ask clarification. You know, we talk a lot about the fortune is in the follow-up, right? That's the sales lineup. That's, you know, link building. That's like the fortune is in the follow-up. That's the remarketing. Just remarketing. It's also true in the interviews. It's like when you get that answer and you see the opportunity to dig deeper and get more information out, that's where the fortune of that interview is. Go down the rabbit hole. Yeah. Right? Is that what you should say? Go down the rabbit hole.

Um, all right. Skill number three, writing each piece of content with a goal in mind. By the way, this is the top 10 must have content marketing skills, writing each piece of content with a goal in mind. And he gave some really good example. It's actually really good. I almost want to buy the product because it's short and sweet and easy to do. Um, goals aren't only specific to selling your service, right? So your goal might be, I don't know, a lead magnet to grow your email list, an email series, which drives people to different blogs or an authority blogs. So this piece of, you skipped this. I circled it. Yeah. I just, I like that. Yeah. I like it. Because according to leading social media analytics and software firm, Sprout Social, 74% of buying decisions today are based on what customers read on social media. I have never seen that statistic before. Do you believe that? I don't. I, I, I don't. I think that there's some credence in it. Okay. Because I think that Facebook. So let me ask you, I'm going to, I'm going to play devil and I'm going to interrupt you here. Apologize. No. Um, you're a recommender. Then you should be a consumer. Yeah. Like I, I, I know that that wasn't what this statement was, but I feel like. That's in the influence. The, the, the personal recommendation. If someone is saying something on Facebook that you know, like, or trust, you're going to listen to them. Yeah. And then, you know, that other piece of data, which there's data out there that supports that there was a study of like putting little signs in people's yards. They, they had to put a little sign, like drive slow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was their own influence. And then they're like, put this giant one in your window or whatever. Yeah. And, and they did it. And like, I'm seeing some of these. Things plan, pan out. These pan, pan out. Great book. In the referral market. What's the,

the. Tipping point or what are you talking about? Influence. Oh, influence. What's his name? The author's name. Robert Cialdini. Cialdini. Isn't that. Well, there's pre, there's pre-fluence and there's influence. Both by him. And it's, I don't know if that, I'm sure it's in there. Yeah. But that piece is, that piece is in there. I mean, they're talking about reciprocity and all these other things. It's really good stuff. Yeah. All right. So let's see. Authority. The secret is determine the goal of every single piece and make sure that your content is written with that goal in mind. Number four, knowing how to stand out. Right. So it's not just about writing an article. Right. And you, you mentioned earlier, you can't just write another article that looks like the same as everybody else's article. And here's a, here's ways that you can come up with this type of content that stands out. Number one, spy on your competition. Right. That goes back to like doing research, figure out what they're doing and what they're missing. So in PPC, there's a tool we use called SpyFu. Right. Right. Right. And, and it has spy in the name. Right. Right. And I think the professional term is listening tools. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But yeah, that's, you're like, what is the competition doing? What can we do? Where's the gaps? Yeah. Yeah. Present content uniquely. So maybe it's different. Maybe it is. Everybody writes content about your subject and nobody has a video to accompany it. So like add a video to it. I know this is that, that ties into content. Next, develop your own personal style. Like the whole people having a connection with individuals who represent your business. By the way, it doesn't have to be the owner. It doesn't have to be any one person. Actually, it can be a group of people as long as they have a very like mind. But that is really powerful. And you end up with a lot of followers and then end up having actual influence on people.

I mean, people do business with people. I mean, when I was, when I was in sales in the early days. People that they like. You didn't finish that. People do business with people. No, I can trust. No, I can trust. No, I can trust. No. Absolutely. I mean, when I was passing out business cards or whatever, like back in the day, I pass out like, hey, here's a link. Before even LinkedIn, like here's my personal blog or like a little bit of information about you, I think it's really important. So people don't see you as a like 2D or they just see you as a business. And I mean, I think even businesses with spokespeople and that sort of thing, they're trying to elicit emotion. Like even these car, like these car commercials. Like it's like, what does the car commercial have to do with like XYZ, like feeling good in life? You know, and it's like, if you drive this car, you do. Or you wear this brand, you do. I mean, that's what it's all about, right? Yep. So that's knowing how to stand out. And then skill number five, we're going to stop. This is going to be, just became a two-part podcast. Yeah, because I'm going to be quieter. Let's read. Skill number five, keyword research savviness. So it's not just the ability to do keyword research. It's the ability to do it with savvy, savoir faire. So what does that word mean? Exactly. Like what's the definition of savvy faire? Savvour faire. I don't know. With the, I don't know. I don't know. If only there were some sort of device that you could use to look good. Ethan, look that up. The name's not Ethan. That was not what's said was there. I think me and Ethan have been talking like technical SEO all day, man. Like my brain's like. I wasn't going to let that slide. Yeah. All right. So he's got, how do you choose keywords to use in your content? Go for the long tail keywords,

right? And so it's always this desire. Obviously this is so SEO, right? Yeah. It's always this desire to go after the biggest, baddest phrase on the planet. And that's just hard to get. And in fact, if you don't have the smaller long tail phrases to support and redirecting to that biggest, baddest content on the planet, it's not going to do well. That, that is the strategy. If, if you're really strategic about it, most people like want leads immediately. Yeah. Right. But I think that, um, you know, kind of surrounding the, the castle and then going after the, the, the main door, taking down the steeple. Yeah, exactly. Like it's better than going for it right away because you're going to, it's going to be very competitive. It's going to be a bloodbath, right? You know, trying to get to that keyword, unless you can just outspend everybody, you know? So this goes back to the same, choose low competition keywords. And this, this is like why I thought it was value. It's okay to select keywords, long tail or low search volume, or really less competitive as long as people are searching for them, right? Because at the end of the day, you want people to visit you and you want people to engage with your content. And if you can start doing that on these long tail phrases, then you're going to build the authority and ultimately be able to. Yeah. I would say, um, the, the right type of people that are searching for it, it makes it less competitive. But also if you're selling a product or service, that's a high ticket item, even though there's low search volume, you know, you just got to look, you got to look at the business case. But, but I mean, there's a lot of like 30, 50, a hundred keyword search for, you know, industrial, commercial, big machines. B2B stuff. Yeah. B2B stuff that, that it's, it's, it pays for a year of SEO. Yeah. One deal. One deal. Yeah. You know, so it's

worth it. You can use tools like a KW Finder and SEM Rush. We use both of them. We use both of them. So, uh, those are good recommendations for tools. All right. So, well, that's going to wrap up. Uh, we finished half of the top 10 must have content marketing skills. Um, we're going to say to you again, make sure you shiko us. Sure. Right. Like we're, uh, you can go on to the, the best SEO podcast and there's a link there where you can get your, you know how to find us. If you're listening, just, just let new people know about it. He's a little more laissez faire. Uh, I know what that one means. He's a little more laissez faire. I'm going to say, please do us a favor. Go to ewebresults.com slash G plus and leave us a review for Chris. Five, we, we, oh wait, please make that review. Five stars. No. So I, I, we, we got a, there's, there's one agency, one agency in Houston that has more reviews than us and they're a little bit bigger than us, but by, yeah, a lot. Yeah. Whatever. It doesn't matter. Whatever. It's time to take them down. It's time to take them down and we need your help. We're, we're crowdsourcing reviews. There we go. Okay. We're crowdsourcing reviews. Please leave us a review. We are trying to hit, uh, 173, um, and we're at 118. Very cool. And I can tell you, uh, the A, A, H refs, uh, when stats, uh, y'all got us to first, so we appreciate it. We're asking you to help us again. Oh, that was on the best, uh, best marketing podcast. I think someone came in and, and beat us after that, but, but we, we had the title for a long time. Yeah. Uh-huh. Right. Um, all right. So if, uh, if you're looking to grow your business using the largest, simplest marketing tool on the planet, call eWebResults for increased revenue in your business. Our phone number is 713-592-6724. I

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Matthew Bertram
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Matthew Bertram is an AI keynote speaker, creator of DIG® (Digital Information Governance), and owner and CEO of EWR Digital. He helps energy and industrial leaders win visibility in AI search (GEO and AEO), is President of ModalPoint and CMO of the Oil & Gas Global Network, hosts The Best SEO Podcast, and has authored eight books including LLM Visibility. More about Matthew Bertram.

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