Interview of Isar Meitis of the E-Tribe Podcast #494

Ep. 49442 min2020-08-251,026 plays

Isar Meitis, former F-16 pilot and travel startup founder, explains how agency owners and consultants can grow by structuring revenue-share and equity deals instead of short-term retainers, and by using podcasting to land dream clients.

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Key takeaways
if you're telling me that you have this amazing system that gets this and that kind of return, click through it, conversions, et cetera, but you're not willing to work on rev share when I'm telling you there's no upper limit, it means you don't trust your own system

About this episode

Interview of Isar Meitis of the E-Tribe PodcastIsar Meitis - the host of the popular E-Tribe podcast that caters to entrepreneurs and startups. He has been involved with startups, tech and marketing for almost 20 years., Having 1st aired in 2009, with over 3.6 million downloads in 100+ counties, “SEO Podcast, The Best SEO Podcast has become one of the longest-running and most authoritative podcasts for staying ahead…

Questions this episode answers

Why does Isar Meitis prefer revenue-share deals over monthly retainers?

He argues that short-term retainers create misaligned incentives. A consultant on a six-month retainer spends the last three months hunting the next client instead of serving the current one. Revenue share and equity tie compensation directly to results, with no upper cap on earnings if the work succeeds.

How can a podcast be used as a B2B sales tool?

Meitis built a business around this idea. Inviting a target client as a podcast guest removes the cold-sales barrier entirely. The CEO gets an informal, hour-long conversation, relationships form naturally, and structured follow-up automation converts those conversations into clients at a much higher rate than traditional outreach.

What is the SEO value of a podcast transcript?

Matt Bertram explains that raw back-and-forth transcripts are not enough. Converting a transcript into a keyword-targeted article with proper H1 and H2 structure is what Google rewards. Meitis confirmed this approach grew his organic traffic from zero to 30 to 40 visitors a day in four to five months.

What should agency owners check before taking on a new client?

Both hosts warn that clients must be able to handle increased demand before marketing is scaled. One remodeler only did five houses a year and became overwhelmed when SEO ranked him across a wide region. Asking whether a business has the operational capacity to fulfill new leads is a critical step before starting work.

In their words

if you're telling me that you have this amazing system that gets this and that kind of return, click through it, conversions, et cetera, but you're not willing to work on rev share when I'm telling you there's no upper limit, it means you don't trust your own system. That's all it tells me, right?

Isar Meitis

you cannot call a CEO of a company and just have a chat. But if you bring him to your podcast, like, oh yeah, I'll chat with you for an hour. So that barrier goes away and it becomes a real human relationship.

Isar Meitis

find out what it is that is the biggest showstoppers, the things that are bottlenecks that are slowing your growth, and then figure out a way to tackle them.

Isar Meitis
Terms defined in this episode
Revenue share
A deal structure where the consultant or marketer receives a percentage of sales generated rather than a fixed fee, aligning payment directly with results and removing any upper earnings cap.
Fractional CMO
A part-time or contract Chief Marketing Officer brought into a company to direct marketing strategy, as described by Matt Bertram in his oil-and-gas deal.
Social splintering
The practice of taking one piece of content such as a podcast episode and distributing it across multiple channels as short clips, soundbites, infographics, and articles to maximize reach.
Productizing services
Turning custom, project-based work into standardized, repeatable offerings so a business can scale without proportionally increasing headcount or complexity.

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Matthew Bertram, host of The Best SEO Podcast
Matthew Bertram
AI keynote speaker · Owner & CEO, EWR Digital · President, ModalPoint

Matthew Bertram is an AI keynote speaker, creator of DIG™ (Digital Information Governance), and owner and CEO of EWR Digital. He helps energy and industrial leaders win visibility in AI search (GEO and AEO), is President of ModalPoint and CMO of the Oil & Gas Global Network, hosts The Best SEO Podcast, and has authored eight books including LLM Visibility. More about Matthew Bertram.

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